America is no longer a dream destination of the world
"LIFE BEGINS HERE AGAIN "
MONDAY, JUNE 30, 2014
"LIFE BEGINS HERE AGAIN "
MONDAY, JUNE 30, 2014
A year after the USA Return It has been a year in India since I returned from the USA, This blog post is to share the experience about how it feels to be back to your place after getting used to the US way of living or rather its a post on how I see India after returning.
Every Indian living abroad must have come across these lines 'You can go out of India, but you cannot take India out of you'. very true lines indeed. All the times I was in the US there was never a day something or the other did not remind me of my place and my people back home.
Well to be honest the same is the thing when you come back from the US to India. One just cannot take the US out of the mind; the reason is not being emotional.
The reason is more of the difference in the way things are managed in India and the US. There is never a day I don't compare the way things were in the US after looking at the conditions in India, be it traffic management, garbage, food, anything, and everything, and I think I will never be able to stop these comparisons in my mind, as now I have seen that world. Intentionally or unintentionally I followed and observed many details of the US way of life that are now imprinted in my mind.
There are many positive points of India that make it a great country to live in (on the condition you are earning well). Towns and cities are alive till 11 PM at night, and local food joints, restaurants, grocery stores, and medical stores all are easily accessible till midnight as opposed to the US where it gets too gloomy after 8PM unless you are standing at some exceptional places like Times Square.
Health Service is very cheap and easily accessible, you don't have to make an appointment just for some minor cough or cold. The US is terrible in terms of general healthcare, you got to have a primary physician, book an appointment beforehand and sometimes they give a date after a week or even a month.
There are many positive points of India that make it a great country to live in (on the condition you are earning well). Towns and cities are alive till 11 PM at night, and local food joints, restaurants, grocery stores, and medical stores all are easily accessible till midnight as opposed to the US where it gets too gloomy after 8PM unless you are standing at some exceptional places like Times Square.
Health Service is very cheap and easily accessible, you don't have to make an appointment just for some minor cough or cold. The US is terrible in terms of general healthcare, you got to have a primary physician, book an appointment beforehand and sometimes they give a date after a week or even a month.
Of course, there are urgent care and Emergency facility available but they charge way too much. There are many other things that are positive about India, be it many people to talk to, cheap food, cheap services, and others.
India is following the US in many terms, be it Shopping malls, Food Joints like (McDonald's, Subway, Pizza Hut, and Domino), Four lane Highways, Retail Shopping chains, Multiplexes, and many such things. India is doing great in adapting to the US culture in terms of development. There is hardly any day when I don't say "Oh, this is the same they do it there and now they are trying to replicate the same here".
But there is something about us Indians that will never stop us from being a developed nation like the US. Yes, I know that we have our cultural values and that every Indian attitude makes us different. But there are some basic things that really really need to change. Spitting on roads, breaking signals, not following rules, and giving bribes are the things that are very
India is following the US in many terms, be it Shopping malls, Food Joints like (McDonald's, Subway, Pizza Hut, and Domino), Four lane Highways, Retail Shopping chains, Multiplexes, and many such things. India is doing great in adapting to the US culture in terms of development. There is hardly any day when I don't say "Oh, this is the same they do it there and now they are trying to replicate the same here".
But there is something about us Indians that will never stop us from being a developed nation like the US. Yes, I know that we have our cultural values and that every Indian attitude makes us different. But there are some basic things that really really need to change. Spitting on roads, breaking signals, not following rules, and giving bribes are the things that are very
common for us and knowingly or unknowingly these are now a way of life for us, People now are proudly able to accept that these basic flaws only make us true Indians. and as everyone says "India me to sab chalta hai".
It sometimes hurt to see the way things are going here, but we have to accept reality. It's a long road ahead in terms of changing the nation, changing the government alone will not help.
It sometimes hurt to see the way things are going here, but we have to accept reality. It's a long road ahead in terms of changing the nation, changing the government alone will not help.
I believe that the mentality of people needs to change, there is no benefit of the government creating four lanes when all people do is drive recklessly in the middle of the lane honking all the time and spitting tobacco all the way. There is no point in pointing the finger at the government all the time when the problem is deep within us.
Sometimes it's frustrating to see things around, and I clearly don't know and see how things will change, But I have not lost hope of seeing India taking the positives from the Americans and I will try to do my part in doing that.
I was born and brought up, grew up in India, and went to the US at 44. Spent 2 or so years there (including one-year working). Moved back to New Delhi India, India in 1994, and have been coming and going here ever since.)
(Clarification: This post is intended to just be context-fact findings and expectation-setting for someone who is already planning on returning to India. If you're happy in the US and are not interested in returning, I am happy for you - this post is not an attempt to change your mind (as some people see
m to have misinterpreted))
A lot of how you feel depends upon your attitude. Some things are going to be as bad as you remember them when you left them here, some things are going to be worse than you remember, and some things are going to be surprisingly better. The right attitude is to focus on what is good and try to ignore the bad. Some people fail miserably at this and move back to the US after about a year. Others succeed in this, and love being here.
Here are the things you might notice, conveniently categorized: AND compared
General life: IN INDIA as usual:_Yes, it is dirty and dusty. People litter and spit and urinate in public. It was always like this, so you shouldn't let it bother you. If this is going to irritate you, or your perceived standard towards cleanliness has changed dramatically then better don't come back. Yes, there is a hell of corruption in every public government dealing.
Sometimes it's frustrating to see things around, and I clearly don't know and see how things will change, But I have not lost hope of seeing India taking the positives from the Americans and I will try to do my part in doing that.
I was born and brought up, grew up in India, and went to the US at 44. Spent 2 or so years there (including one-year working). Moved back to New Delhi India, India in 1994, and have been coming and going here ever since.)
(Clarification: This post is intended to just be context-fact findings and expectation-setting for someone who is already planning on returning to India. If you're happy in the US and are not interested in returning, I am happy for you - this post is not an attempt to change your mind (as some people see
m to have misinterpreted))
A lot of how you feel depends upon your attitude. Some things are going to be as bad as you remember them when you left them here, some things are going to be worse than you remember, and some things are going to be surprisingly better. The right attitude is to focus on what is good and try to ignore the bad. Some people fail miserably at this and move back to the US after about a year. Others succeed in this, and love being here.
Here are the things you might notice, conveniently categorized: AND compared
General life: IN INDIA as usual:_Yes, it is dirty and dusty. People litter and spit and urinate in public. It was always like this, so you shouldn't let it bother you. If this is going to irritate you, or your perceived standard towards cleanliness has changed dramatically then better don't come back. Yes, there is a hell of corruption in every public government dealing.
But if you're going to be doing a job (as opposed to doing your own business), you will not be exposed to much of it. Most vendors and service providers are unreliable or some even fly by night operators unmindful of any law of the land, thanks to poor governance in every sphere of Indian life. They won't come on time.
They will not deliver on time. Quality will be lacking. Some will disappear without warning you. This continues to bother me, even after 10 years here. However, note that consumer-oriented business works far more efficiently now than it used to 10-15 years ago. When I first landed in New Delhi India in 1992,
I had nothing other than a passport. No friends, no family, no address proof, no ration card. No place to stay, no vehicle. I managed to get a rental apartment, a ration card, a landline phone, a mobile phone, 2 "gas" cylinders, a computer, 2 internet connections, a car, and all household appliances, and start a full-time home office in 2 weeks.
I would not have thought that it was possible to get this done in India so fast. See footnoteGetting domestic help is ridiculously cheap, so expect to have a person to do the dishes, someone else to do the cleaning and the laundry, and a cook, and a driver. In the last ten years, I've probably done dishes, or the laundry less than 5 times.
My wife and I cook only when we're in the mood for cooking, otherwise, we don't have to. I know that some people are thinking: "I like doing all the chores. There is a satisfaction in being self-sufficient." But the fact is that I have not seen anybody hold on to such a resolve in the face of easily available domestic help. (Note: Driving is an exception.
People who like to drive often will make do without a driver. I like to drive, so did not use a driver for a longest time. But these days, if I need to go somewhere that's more than 20 minutes away, I take the driver along, so I can get some work done along the way.)
Cost and Standard of Living: In general, you will be comfortably well off in India. Your Indian salary will be much lower than your US salary in dollar terms but will be pretty good in terms of purchasing power parity.
Some things will seem very expensive relative to your salary, and other things ridiculously cheap expect to be shocked by real estate prices. Houses/Flats (aka "condos") in the better localities (i.e. the kinds of places NRIs like to live in) can be more expensive than houses in the US (of course, if you're not from the Bay Area).
A major chunk of your salary will go towards the EMI for your home loan.iPads, laptops, and the latest flat-screen TVs will seem a little expensive for you. The prices in India are just a little higher than US prices, (and many people buy in the US), but your salary will be lower. Food, eating out, domestic help, and in general everything else will be much cheaper
Infrastructure: Roads/Traffic/Electricity/Water is an area that I view with a bit of a concern. Depending on where exactly you're living one or more of these might be an irritant already, and the problem is likely to get horsepower cuts are a problem in some cities (mostly during the daytime).
Infrastructure: Roads/Traffic/Electricity/Water is an area that I view with a bit of a concern. Depending on where exactly you're living one or more of these might be an irritant already, and the problem is likely to get horsepower cuts are a problem in some cities (mostly during the daytime).
This is not an issue for employees of large companies, because of generator backups, but it has begun hurting smaller companies. Sometimes, you end up losing a few hours of work on one day of the week because the load-shedding extended farther than your UPS and laptop batteries could last.
While water is theoretically a problem, most of you are likely to live in apartment complexes that buy water by the tanker to make up for any shortages, so you're unlikely to notice this much. Traffic and commute times are becoming problems for some people in some cities - but then people who've lived in the US would not be strangers to long commutes and rush hour traffic jams.
Phone coverage and internet bandwidth are not really a problem. While the average "home" broadband network might not be as fast as what you're used to in the US, and there are sporadic reliability issues, quality, and speed are available at a cost if you really want them. And I'm willing to bet that mobile network coverage is better than what AT&T has in the US.
Recreation: As far as shopping is concerned, (almost) everything is available here. Electronic goods are maybe a little more expensive than in the US, but there is nothing that is difficult to get. If you're in a metro or even Pune, there are now lots of international cuisines. Of course, not as much as in the US, but certainly much more than was available 5 or 10 years ago. Italian, Korean, Japanese, Mediterranean, French, and Thai are all available in Pune, for example. McDonald's, Pizza Hut, Subway, and California Pizza Kitchen, are all here too.
Recreation: As far as shopping is concerned, (almost) everything is available here. Electronic goods are maybe a little more expensive than in the US, but there is nothing that is difficult to get. If you're in a metro or even Pune, there are now lots of international cuisines. Of course, not as much as in the US, but certainly much more than was available 5 or 10 years ago. Italian, Korean, Japanese, Mediterranean, French, and Thai are all available in Pune, for example. McDonald's, Pizza Hut, Subway, and California Pizza Kitchen, are all here too.
And the Indian food here is far better than the Indian food in the US:-)Multiplexes have mushroomed, and have improved the movie-going experience, but they still remain a little more crowded than I'd like. Many "western" activities are now available here. Bowling, Paintball, Pool, Hard-Rock Cafe, and Microbreweries, are all available. Quality is lower than ideal, and there are only one or two of each per city.
Kids: Schools are getting better. There are now lots of options available. The old-style, regimented convent schools continue to go strong, but in addition, now there are lots of newer schools that are willing to experiment with teaching methods. So there are lots of choices (but be prepared to spend a little).
Kids: Schools are getting better. There are now lots of options available. The old-style, regimented convent schools continue to go strong, but in addition, now there are lots of newer schools that are willing to experiment with teaching methods. So there are lots of choices (but be prepared to spend a little).
Lots of options for co-curricular and extracurricular activities. All kinds of classes are available at reasonable rates. If you have teenage kids, remember that social mores and standards of what is acceptable and permissible behavior is changing rapidly. So if you're coming back to India because "my kids will grow up in a more conservative culture", you're in for a surprise. Don't say I did not warn you. Dealing with teenagers doesn't become any easier just because you're in India.
Career: If you are a techie in the IT industry, and if you want to be an individual contributor, then you will certainly not get as good work here as you would in the US. There are some companies doing interesting stuff, but as your seniority increases, your options decrease. Since most of the customers are in the US, there is definitely a glass ceiling.
Career: If you are a techie in the IT industry, and if you want to be an individual contributor, then you will certainly not get as good work here as you would in the US. There are some companies doing interesting stuff, but as your seniority increases, your options decrease. Since most of the customers are in the US, there is definitely a glass ceiling.
If you're a manager, then India is a great place to be. The number of people and projects to manage to keep increasing, and the challenges interesting and varied. This is an exciting place to be. If you are the entrepreneur type, then India is like the Wild West. Very challenging, with a high chance of failure, but very exciting. For non-IT folks, I don't know the answer. Sorry.
Personal life: As with shifting to any new place, expect to find yourself suddenly friendless and lonely for the first few years. It takes time to make good friends."Involvement" of family, and extended family in your life will be higher than you expected. To anyone who has spent 5+ years in the US, this will seem like an intrusion of privacy. This will bother you, (especially the wife, if you're a couple).
Personal life: As with shifting to any new place, expect to find yourself suddenly friendless and lonely for the first few years. It takes time to make good friends."Involvement" of family, and extended family in your life will be higher than you expected. To anyone who has spent 5+ years in the US, this will seem like an intrusion of privacy. This will bother you, (especially the wife, if you're a couple).
The US is a nice safe distance away from the in-laws. Coming back to India removes that layer of protection. This can be the biggest change in lifestyle. Takes at least 2/3 years to get used to.
Opinion: Overall, I find that life here is more varied and more interesting. I found life in the US to be too cut-n-dried, too regimented - all cities are similar (compared to how different Indian cities are). Most interactions follow set patterns. (Maybe it simply boils down to the fact that I grew up here, and hence I'll be most comfortable with this way of life.) In any case, I'm very happy with the decision of moving here.
If you have any questions about something I did not cover, please leave a comment and I can update my answer.
Footnote [1]:
This is a little anecdote to give an idea of how India works efficiently in some areas. On my second day in Pune, I went to a random shop down the street looking to buy a mobile phone (instrument + service). The shop owner told me that I need of proof-of-residence, which I obviously did not have. He did not want to let go of a customer for such a minor reason, so he started exploring options:
Do you have parents who live here?
No.
Do you have any other relatives, an uncle perhaps?
No, but my mother-in-law's brother does live here.
Ok, will he be willing to give an affidavit to the effect that he knows you and vouches for you?
Yes, he will but neither I nor he has the time or the expertise to get an affidavit.
No, Sir, don't worry. My man will get the affidavit ready, will go to your uncle's home, get his signature and finish the paperwork.
So, I bought the phone instrument right away. I called up the uncle-in-law and told him to expect a guy to show up with an affidavit to sign, and I left. By that evening, all of this had been taken care of, and my mobile phone service had started.s a salaried employee while usually doing interesting work.
Opinion: Overall, I find that life here is more varied and more interesting. I found life in the US to be too cut-n-dried, too regimented - all cities are similar (compared to how different Indian cities are). Most interactions follow set patterns. (Maybe it simply boils down to the fact that I grew up here, and hence I'll be most comfortable with this way of life.) In any case, I'm very happy with the decision of moving here.
If you have any questions about something I did not cover, please leave a comment and I can update my answer.
Footnote [1]:
This is a little anecdote to give an idea of how India works efficiently in some areas. On my second day in Pune, I went to a random shop down the street looking to buy a mobile phone (instrument + service). The shop owner told me that I need of proof-of-residence, which I obviously did not have. He did not want to let go of a customer for such a minor reason, so he started exploring options:
Do you have parents who live here?
No.
Do you have any other relatives, an uncle perhaps?
No, but my mother-in-law's brother does live here.
Ok, will he be willing to give an affidavit to the effect that he knows you and vouches for you?
Yes, he will but neither I nor he has the time or the expertise to get an affidavit.
No, Sir, don't worry. My man will get the affidavit ready, will go to your uncle's home, get his signature and finish the paperwork.
So, I bought the phone instrument right away. I called up the uncle-in-law and told him to expect a guy to show up with an affidavit to sign, and I left. By that evening, all of this had been taken care of, and my mobile phone service had started.s a salaried employee while usually doing interesting work.
You can expect to earn between 1/3 and 1/2 your US salary as an employee if you're really good at what you do (the Purchasing Power Parity was still 1:5 last I checked, so that's a win). If you start your own business, well, the sky's the limit. We've hit a million-dollar run rate in just over two years - PPP adjusted that's like going from 0 to 5 million in the US. And this without a single paisa of external investment.
That said, capital is scarce and difficult to raise and is largely cornered by businesses that have fixed assets. Software companies especially find it very tough to get a loan - we've been exploring this for a while at C42 Engineering with no luck. Angels are scarce and there are two seed funds, IIRC. Nobody invests in you unless you're already profitable.
Basically, India has both the upsides and down-sides of an immature market. Lots of opportunities are difficult to tap due to problems in the ecosystem like scarce capital, government corruption, awful infrastructure, black money, and so on.
That said, capital is scarce and difficult to raise and is largely cornered by businesses that have fixed assets. Software companies especially find it very tough to get a loan - we've been exploring this for a while at C42 Engineering with no luck. Angels are scarce and there are two seed funds, IIRC. Nobody invests in you unless you're already profitable.
Basically, India has both the upsides and down-sides of an immature market. Lots of opportunities are difficult to tap due to problems in the ecosystem like scarce capital, government corruption, awful infrastructure, black money, and so on.
But this is improving steadily, and businesses that are ready for the Indian market in two to three years stand to do exceedingly well. It's a little like the railroad and newspaper businesses in the late 1800s and early 1900s.
Also, it's worth noting the amount of money coming into India seems to be insane. I'm in Bangalore, where five years ago a BMW or Mercedes was a big deal and you never saw Jags and Porches - we have 110% import duties, so these cars cost more than twice what they would elsewhere (the basic Jaguar X
Also, it's worth noting the amount of money coming into India seems to be insane. I'm in Bangalore, where five years ago a BMW or Mercedes was a big deal and you never saw Jags and Porches - we have 110% import duties, so these cars cost more than twice what they would elsewhere (the basic Jaguar X